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	<title>Comments on: Hacking phpBB templates</title>
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	<description>Web standards, accessibility  and such like with a bias toward  Government web sites</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: panikeeer</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2006/hacking-phpbb-templates/#comment-4849</link>
		<dc:creator>panikeeer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didnt find thing that i need... :-( 
[url=http://google.com]google[/url]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didnt find thing that i need&#8230; :-(<br />
[url=http://google.com]google[/url]</p>
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		<title>By: chovy</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2006/hacking-phpbb-templates/#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>chovy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Aug 2006 23:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am tired of hacking up phpbb to get it to play with wordpress and my other pages.

I couldn't find any exceptional use of bbpress except the wordpress forums, any others?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am tired of hacking up phpbb to get it to play with wordpress and my other pages.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t find any exceptional use of bbpress except the wordpress forums, any others?</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2006/hacking-phpbb-templates/#comment-314</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2006 02:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon
&lt;p&gt;
Not far enough, but it is in use: &lt;a href="http://pdmbc.com/phpBB/"&gt;http://pdmbc.com/phpBB/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The first level, the forum index is good, works well (once I fix the top nav), good navigation&lt;br /&gt;
The second level,  which phpBB calls "view forum", is missing navigation, no easy way back to the forum index&lt;br /&gt;
The third level, which php call "view topic" is poor, too busy, it does not need the right sidebar, there is no nav back to view forum or the forum index and my css in incomplete.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Three choices:&lt;br /&gt;
1. Fix it (which will take some fancy footwork inside phpBB as well as time to CSS right)&lt;br /&gt;
2. Replace the theme with a more standard phpBB theme (the easy option, but loses the value that was added by the right sidebar)&lt;br /&gt;
3. Ditch phpBB and replace it with a more standards compliant BB like bbpress 
or two others I was recently was made aware of by the &lt;a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/"&gt;Web Standards Group&lt;/a&gt;  mailing list:
&lt;a href="http://lussumo.com/"&gt;Vanilla&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.punbb.org"&gt;PunBB&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The more I think about option 1, the less I like it. The CSS is the easy part, the difficult part is getting phpBB to do what I want. And after my experiences I will not be using phpBB for any forum I create in the future. So why develop skills is something I am unlikley need in the future?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Option 2 is admitting defeat, but it does resolve most of the problems.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Option 3, will destroy the exisiting data, but puts a more manageable solution and I can develop new skills I may use later.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I will talk it over with the people behind PDMBC and make a decision.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/P&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you are crazy enough to want to look at the code behind it, download the &lt;a href="http://nickcowie.com/xtras/Peel.zip"&gt;theme&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href="http://nickcowie.com/xtras/phpBB_directory.zip"&gt;modified phpBB files&lt;/a&gt; this is the painful part, you have to hack the phpBB files, so the theme can include other PHP files.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon</p>
<p>
Not far enough, but it is in use: <a href="http://pdmbc.com/phpBB/">http://pdmbc.com/phpBB/</a></p>
<p>
The first level, the forum index is good, works well (once I fix the top nav), good navigation<br />
The second level,  which phpBB calls &#8220;view forum&#8221;, is missing navigation, no easy way back to the forum index<br />
The third level, which php call &#8220;view topic&#8221; is poor, too busy, it does not need the right sidebar, there is no nav back to view forum or the forum index and my css in incomplete.</p>
<p>Three choices:<br />
1. Fix it (which will take some fancy footwork inside phpBB as well as time to CSS right)<br />
2. Replace the theme with a more standard phpBB theme (the easy option, but loses the value that was added by the right sidebar)<br />
3. Ditch phpBB and replace it with a more standards compliant BB like bbpress<br />
or two others I was recently was made aware of by the <a href="http://webstandardsgroup.org/">Web Standards Group</a>  mailing list:<br />
<a href="http://lussumo.com/">Vanilla</a> and <a href="http://www.punbb.org">PunBB</a>
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The more I think about option 1, the less I like it. The CSS is the easy part, the difficult part is getting phpBB to do what I want. And after my experiences I will not be using phpBB for any forum I create in the future. So why develop skills is something I am unlikley need in the future?</p>
<p>Option 2 is admitting defeat, but it does resolve most of the problems.</p>
<p>Option 3, will destroy the exisiting data, but puts a more manageable solution and I can develop new skills I may use later.</p>
<p>I will talk it over with the people behind PDMBC and make a decision.</p>
<p>If you are crazy enough to want to look at the code behind it, download the <a href="http://nickcowie.com/xtras/Peel.zip">theme</a> and the <a href="http://nickcowie.com/xtras/phpBB_directory.zip">modified phpBB files</a> this is the painful part, you have to hack the phpBB files, so the theme can include other PHP files.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2006/hacking-phpbb-templates/#comment-312</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, I started down the same path as you this morning and came across this post while searching in frustration. How far along did you get with doing a propper layout with phpbb? I'm going to have a look at bbPress tomorrow too.

Cheers, Simon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, I started down the same path as you this morning and came across this post while searching in frustration. How far along did you get with doing a propper layout with phpbb? I&#8217;m going to have a look at bbPress tomorrow too.</p>
<p>Cheers, Simon.</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2006/hacking-phpbb-templates/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt

Did not know about &lt;a href="http://bbpress.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;bbPress&lt;/a&gt; until you told me. Looks like I will be spending this weekend investigating it futher, looks interesting though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt</p>
<p>Did not know about <a href="http://bbpress.org/" rel="nofollow">bbPress</a> until you told me. Looks like I will be spending this weekend investigating it futher, looks interesting though.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2006/hacking-phpbb-templates/#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you concider bbPress, Nick?

Matt Mullegwen wrote that as well and they seem to play reasonably nicely together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you concider bbPress, Nick?</p>
<p>Matt Mullegwen wrote that as well and they seem to play reasonably nicely together.</p>
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