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		<title>By: shakir miah</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2007/mobile-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-31082</link>
		<dc:creator>shakir miah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 15:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m at the moment doing my coursework and need contrsting information of mobile learning. if possible you could post some information. &lt;ins datetime=&quot;2008-04-08T10:06:37+00:00&quot;&gt;address deleted&lt;/ins&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i’m at the moment doing my coursework and need contrsting information of mobile learning. if possible you could post some information. <ins datetime="2008-04-08T10:06:37+00:00">address deleted</ins></p>
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		<title>By: &#187; STOP, LOOK, THINK - What Is Material Really Going To Look Like on A Mobile Device Mobile Technology in TAFE</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; STOP, LOOK, THINK - What Is Material Really Going To Look Like on A Mobile Device Mobile Technology in TAFE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Mobile learning [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sue Waters</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2007/mobile-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-17489</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nick

I agree totally with you about Lectopia; done quite a bit of research on it.  The key issue in the VET sector will be whether the organisations will be willing to spend the money to set up Lectopia and supply the staff to support it.  I believe without Lectopia you will not see widespread up take of podcasting in VET but I can not see TAFEs purchasing the system.  

Sue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nick</p>
<p>I agree totally with you about Lectopia; done quite a bit of research on it.  The key issue in the VET sector will be whether the organisations will be willing to spend the money to set up Lectopia and supply the staff to support it.  I believe without Lectopia you will not see widespread up take of podcasting in VET but I can not see TAFEs purchasing the system.  </p>
<p>Sue</p>
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		<title>By: Mobile Technology in TAFE &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Will Mobiles Be THE Tool of The Future?</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2007/mobile-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-17474</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobile Technology in TAFE &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Will Mobiles Be THE Tool of The Future?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We debate which mobile devices (e.g. PDA, ipod, mobile phone) to use for mlearning? And it is good to hear differing opinions from people like Stuart Smith and Nick Cowie on the use of mobile phones. But more importantly, we have others reflecting on whether they should be letting their students take their mobile phones out of their bags. Unfortunately, in most circumstances, if teachers want to use their student&#8217;s mobile phones for learning they will not be allowed to because it is against school policy! [image by bb_matt] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] We debate which mobile devices (e.g. PDA, ipod, mobile phone) to use for mlearning? And it is good to hear differing opinions from people like Stuart Smith and Nick Cowie on the use of mobile phones. But more importantly, we have others reflecting on whether they should be letting their students take their mobile phones out of their bags. Unfortunately, in most circumstances, if teachers want to use their student’s mobile phones for learning they will not be allowed to because it is against school policy! [image by bb_matt] […]</p>
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		<title>By: nick</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2007/mobile-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-17472</link>
		<dc:creator>nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stuart, access to the web via mobile in Australia is also decreasing rapidly, not as cheap as the UK yet, but far cheaper than it was 8 months ago. But cost should not be the only factor, acceptance of the technology by students and availability of the service in the area were training will occur are also major factors.

Cost would not be a major  factor if a large number of student were already  using  the mobile web. My show of hands sample at BarCamp, had about half the audience using the mobile web (but that was a quite difference group).

My main concern is the availability of mobile web.  In the outer areas of Perth, and likely location for training (industrial areas) are only serviced by 1 or 2 of the 5 major Australian telecommunications providers.

J2ME reference material for mobile devices that can be distributed by various means is a good solution for Western Australia&#039;s vast distances and limited telecommunications infrastructure. It would be great for students anywhere in this state to be able to grab their phone and find the information they need, then and there. I hope an alternative solution is found soon. 

Sue, Lectopia does a great job in converting audio and video, not just lectures to various different formats suitable for different devices and delivery methods.

Stuart, imagination is something we need to show in providing services for mobile devices with students or anybody else. Because I am sure if you provide the right services, they will be used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stuart, access to the web via mobile in Australia is also decreasing rapidly, not as cheap as the UK yet, but far cheaper than it was 8 months ago. But cost should not be the only factor, acceptance of the technology by students and availability of the service in the area were training will occur are also major factors.</p>
<p>Cost would not be a major  factor if a large number of student were already  using  the mobile web. My show of hands sample at BarCamp, had about half the audience using the mobile web (but that was a quite difference group).</p>
<p>My main concern is the availability of mobile web.  In the outer areas of Perth, and likely location for training (industrial areas) are only serviced by 1 or 2 of the 5 major Australian telecommunications providers.</p>
<p>J2ME reference material for mobile devices that can be distributed by various means is a good solution for Western Australia’s vast distances and limited telecommunications infrastructure. It would be great for students anywhere in this state to be able to grab their phone and find the information they need, then and there. I hope an alternative solution is found soon. </p>
<p>Sue, Lectopia does a great job in converting audio and video, not just lectures to various different formats suitable for different devices and delivery methods.</p>
<p>Stuart, imagination is something we need to show in providing services for mobile devices with students or anybody else. Because I am sure if you provide the right services, they will be used.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, I think those who are in favour of using mobile devices in learning are probably broadly in agreement that they shouldn&#039;t be used in isolation in learning and they are unlikely to be the only medium we use. However, as I&#039;ve been discussing with Sue we are the cutting edge of the technology and that does offer challenges as I discussed in the articles I wrote which are dissected here. As I posted before it does look like Maxdox is out of the picture for the time being but that does not mean that J2Me is dead as well. Although it is definately a blow for mainstream use of the technology for content creation

Here is the UK the cost of accessing the web and downloading etc. via mobile is decreasing rapidly. It is not as cheap as desktop broadband nor as effective but it is going in the right direction. Only a year ago I argued that download costs were very prohibitive its a lot harder to make that claim now.

The real barrier still remains a lack of imagination about how to use the mobile medium with students and hopefully those of us in the vanguard of using this technology are helping challenge and change that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, I think those who are in favour of using mobile devices in learning are probably broadly in agreement that they shouldn’t be used in isolation in learning and they are unlikely to be the only medium we use. However, as I’ve been discussing with Sue we are the cutting edge of the technology and that does offer challenges as I discussed in the articles I wrote which are dissected here. As I posted before it does look like Maxdox is out of the picture for the time being but that does not mean that J2Me is dead as well. Although it is definately a blow for mainstream use of the technology for content creation</p>
<p>Here is the UK the cost of accessing the web and downloading etc. via mobile is decreasing rapidly. It is not as cheap as desktop broadband nor as effective but it is going in the right direction. Only a year ago I argued that download costs were very prohibitive its a lot harder to make that claim now.</p>
<p>The real barrier still remains a lack of imagination about how to use the mobile medium with students and hopefully those of us in the vanguard of using this technology are helping challenge and change that.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Waters</title>
		<link>http://nickcowie.com/2007/mobile-learning/comment-page-1/#comment-17458</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 07:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Nick and I totally agree with your view that training material can not be mobile device alone. I think that data plans in the UK aren&#039;t that cheap - if you read some of Stuart&#039;s other articles he does talk about blue tooth. The reason why he is focusing on mobile phones is because more learners have them than any other device  however we are all faced by exactly the issues you are talking about.  Not all students will have mobile phones, or afford data plans, is it realistic to expect them to purchase - probably not.  On the other hand, it is not realistic for organisations to be expected to supply them, especially given how fast mobile technologies are changing.

We have an interesting challenge ahead which is why I believe we need to keep whatever content we create adaptable to a range of mobile devices, and situations .  

Lectopia is definitely a great system, but based on the cost of implementing and the fact that TAFE is shifting from campus to workplace based delivery it is unlikely that our sector will invest in this technology.

Sue</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Nick and I totally agree with your view that training material can not be mobile device alone. I think that data plans in the UK aren’t that cheap — if you read some of Stuart’s other articles he does talk about blue tooth. The reason why he is focusing on mobile phones is because more learners have them than any other device  however we are all faced by exactly the issues you are talking about.  Not all students will have mobile phones, or afford data plans, is it realistic to expect them to purchase — probably not.  On the other hand, it is not realistic for organisations to be expected to supply them, especially given how fast mobile technologies are changing.</p>
<p>We have an interesting challenge ahead which is why I believe we need to keep whatever content we create adaptable to a range of mobile devices, and situations .  </p>
<p>Lectopia is definitely a great system, but based on the cost of implementing and the fact that TAFE is shifting from campus to workplace based delivery it is unlikely that our sector will invest in this technology.</p>
<p>Sue</p>
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